Hi
all! I’m Ava Miles, a new contemporary romance writer who launched her debut
novel, NORA ROBERTS LAND, last summer after receiving Nora Robert’s blessing to
use her name in the premise and the title. Since then, I’ve released six books,
four single titles, one novella, and one anthology. Whew! Even writing that is
making me tired. Thanks to Becky for having me on today to talk about being an
Indy publisher. I like that word so much better since my brother’s nickname for
me is Indy from Indiana Jones since I used to travel to some pretty exotic
places before quitting that career (also last summer) and going all in being my
own CEO and full-time writer.
What
path did you take to self-publication? Were you first with a traditional publisher
and then branched out?
No, I
started out straight Indy. I pursued the traditional route first. I had the
most wonderful agent, Jennifer Schober from Spencerhill. Both she and I were
convinced that NORA ROBERTS LAND would be well received. But New York didn’t
seem to know what to do with it. Some passed outright, not liking the Nora
angle, wondering if it would alienate non-Nora readers. Others said they loved
my voice, but since they didn’t publish Nora… And Nora’s publisher thought it
was a conflict of interest. And then there were still others who didn’t know
what to do with it. I have a pretty big voice, and well, with the Nora angle, I
didn’t fit into a category. So, right as Jenn and I were coming to realize that
maybe we just needed to put this in the hands of readers since we believed they
would love it, she up and left the business for personal reasons. Well, if that
wasn’t confirmation, I don’t know what was. I had written the next two books in
the series while waiting on submission, so decided to…ah, quit my old career of
rebuilding warzones in places like The Congo and launch myself big-time. That
means releasing the first three books in the Dare Valley series six weeks
apart. It was intense.
But
here’s the lesson I want everyone to take away from my journey: you voice is
precious and has an audience. Don’t allow someone else to make you think
otherwise, not even the “experts.” You have the power. You have choices. Thank
God, we now live in an age where the stories from our hearts can reach readers
despite what the gatekeepers say. That is powerful. You are powerful. Believe
that. Believe in yourself. And nothing can stop you, not even the little dips
in the road as you grow and learn your craft and your career.
Was
Nora Roberts Land your first book?
I’d
been writing since I was young and was learning my craft over time. I learn by
doing. So, I had some unfinished manuscripts, but then I had a breakthrough and
delved in big time. That’s when I completed a story and from then on, writing changed
my life.
Did
you have a reader base when you began?
No, I
had zip. Zero. Nada. Because of the other career’s security issues, I wasn’t
even on Facebook (I mean my parents were even on FB LOL). So, that was another
reason the launch was so intense. All of the sudden, I was on FB, Twitter,
Goodreads, etc. It was a steep learning curve, and I’m still learning and
building.
What
is one of the most important steps a self-published author must do?
I’ve
learned you always need to have a strategy and point your compass there. I’m
continuing to revise mine since my knowledge expands and well…the interfaces we
work with change (all that algorithm stuff). I also think you need to have a
lot of product ready to go and a way to keep feeding the systems. Right now,
your rankings drop if you don’t upload something every 30 days on Amazon. Think
of that! Every thirty days. I realized that even the big boys are playing the
system when I saw James Patterson upload a sample of all of his first chapters.
That’s James “freaking” Patterson, folks. So, you have to make some decisions
about how to do that if you’re going to play. And if you can’t, you have to
make peace with it. One of the first things I noticed among the top Indy
authors was them saying it’s hard work (true) and that they were exhausted (I
understand). I don’t believe that I have to work harder than a traditionally
published author just starting out. She’s having to do her own PR the same as I
am. I just happen to have more control than she does about when I go on sale or
changing my key words on the major retailers. The other things you need to do,
of course, are find an incredible editor, make sure you have a kick-butt cover,
and that you’re getting enough reviews to make your product desirable to your intended
audience.
And
then act like your own CEO. You are NOT only a writer. You are an executive.
It’s a huge difference. I know how to write books, I feel like now. Will my
craft continue to improve with frequency? Sure. But I am still learning how to
be a CEO. The good thing is that I managed a whole lot of people in my old
career, set strategies, and created and executed budgets. I am learning how to
transfer those skills to Ava Miles Inc. to support my publishing house. If you
really want to succeed, I think that’s the special area we all need to continue
to concentrate on.
No
author is an island - this can be especially hard for indie authors -
who
do you have on your 'team' to help you produce and promote your novels?
Well,
as I mentioned, I’ve been experiencing with the types of employees that best
suit my needs. I have the best editor in the world and a fantastic copy editor.
They’ve worked with me from the beginning and know my voice. Continuity has
been key. I’ve recently made a change with my eformatting. I don’t format my
manuscripts myself. I think I would go bonkers. J I have an author assistant
who manages anything from mailings to blog tours. And I’ve decided to bring my
covers in-house since I have access to an excellent graphical artist and wanted
more creative control. I’ve worked with publicists before and am not convinced
they are worth the investment yet, but I continue to experiment. The important
thing is to not get into a rut. Companies grow through innovation and trying
new things. That’s why I keep experimenting. I plan to release a songbook that
includes the songs that I wrote for my current release, COUNTRY HEAVEN, as a
free book with an excerpt. Then I’ll see how it goes from there. Trying out
different price points is essential since every reader has one.
What
have you been able to 'tackle' yourself on this self-pub journey and what did
you decide you needed outside expertise with?
Well,
I feel pretty confident when it comes to social media now. I loved Twitter in
the beginning and felt very comfortable there. But then I read Marie Force’s
self-publishing survey. Her findings indicated readers are on Facebook and not
Twitter (that could be changing, but I find it’s mostly true yet). So, I delved
into Facebook and now spend most of my time there. Otherwise, I’ve talked a lot
about the resources I’ve needed above.
You
are one fish in a very large ocean of indie authors. What do you think accounts
for your success?
I
have to admit, I am still surprised when people call me “successful.” I have
other writer friends who tell me that, but I also know what my goals are. I
have met some, including making USA Today. That was an awesome moment! Others
are still outstanding, and I’m pursuing them. I’ll tell you what I’ve been told
frequently makes me successful since I’m a pretty humble gal: having a great
title for my first book in the series (the journey to receive Nora’s blessing
was special) and being professional. I’ve been told by a lot of readers and
writers that they don’t know I’m Indy published. It doesn’t even cross their
mind until they go into a bookstore and can’t find my book. That to me is the
greatest compliment EVER.
What
has been the best part of this self-pub journey? What has been the most
challenging?
The
best part has been the writing, of course, and the ability to put out books
when I have them finished. I don’t know what I would do if I was told I could
only write two books a year. Or that I had to wait 18-24 months for it to be
published. I guess I could go to Bali or something.
I
LOVE to write. It makes me deliriously happy, and doing it full-time…well, it’s
bliss.
Now,
the most challenging part has been learning the “system,” which I am still
doing big-time. The algorithm, metadata, rankings stuff. That’s the part that
has made me want to beat my head against the door. It’s critical to our
success, it changes often, and it’s complex. But the good news for me is that I
rebuilt complex systems overseas, so on days when I doubt myself (I have them
like we all do), I remind myself that I can do this too.
You
released a number of novels in a very short time frame, was that part of your
marketing strategy? Did you have a strategy before you began?
I
think I covered this point above. I LOVE strategy, and yes, it’s critical to
success. I think you might be able to wing it with one or two books, but again,
what CEO doesn’t have a strategy?
For a limited time, Nora Roberts Land is on sale for $2.99. Here's a bit about Ava's debut novel:
Journalist Meredith Hale's ex-husband claimed her Nora Roberts addiction gave her unrealistic expectations about marriage, and she believed him. All dreams of happily ever after--or Nora Roberts Land as her mother calls it--went up in smoke. But when her family asks her to temporarily help their Dare Valley, Colorado newspaper, she decides it's time to change her life and prove her ex wrong. She's determined to find her own small-town Nora Roberts hero, prove that true love exists, and publish a story about her quest.
War correspondent Tanner McBride has just returned stateside to work for a major newspaper, and the last thing he expects is blackmail. Yet, before he can even unpack, he's headed to Colorado. His assignment? Make his boss's ex-wife fall for him and then break her heart. Her article about discovering love à la Nora might air dirty laundry about her marriage to the media mogul, threatening his senate run. The mogul wants Meredith stopped, and he makes sure Tanner has no choice in the matter.
When the two meet, the sparks between them are undeniable. Meredith, who vowed never to date another journalist, begins to succumb. Could Tanner be her Nora Roberts hero? As they work together to uncover the truth behind a suspicious death, the depth of their feelings unfolds and both realize they've kept their secrets for far too long. But before the truth can be revealed, their investigation takes a deadly turn, one that might make Meredith's personal Nora Roberts Land go up in flames.
AUTHOR BIOGRAPHY: USA Today Bestselling Author Ava Miles burst onto the contemporary romance scene after receiving Nora Roberts' blessing for her use of Ms. Roberts' name in her debut novel, the #1 National Bestseller NORA ROBERTS LAND, which kicked off her small town series, Dare Valley. Ava has also released a connected series called Dare River, set outside the country music capital of Nashville. She's fast becoming a favorite author in light contemporary romance (Tome Tender).
Thanks for sharing your journey. It shows us all not to give up on a dream.
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ReplyDeleteYou could single-handedly cast a winning light on Indy Publishing. I've met some who jump in without much respect or knowledge for the craft of writing. I am fortunate to have the best of both with a small publisher whose business is growing. I love the premise for your Nora Roberts Land story - I am a devoted Nora reader - and your voice even in the blurb comes through loud and clear. All the best to you and I will pass your name to friends who aspire to become Indy writers.
Regards,
Nancy Kay
Ava, thank you for sharing your courageous writing journey with us. And Becky,thanks for a great post. Awesome!
ReplyDeleteFantastic interview. Thank you Ava for sharing your insight.
ReplyDeleteThanks for this post Becky. Ava I had to admit that I bought Nora Roberts land out of anger that you were trading on her name. I quickly changed my mind once I read that Nora had given her blessing. I quickly got into the story, loved the concept, and finding myself pulling out some of the Nora books to find the passages you mentioned. I loved your voice and the story. I'll be back at Amazon for more.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for this beautifully written , insightful post. Your book sounds so fun. I'm going to check it out now.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing. Your journey is inspirational.
ReplyDeleteWhat a great post! Thank you for sharing so candidly, Ava.
ReplyDeleteHi ladies! Thanks so much for your lovely comments. I actually wrote one yesterday, but it looks like the gremlins ate it. I am so glad it inspired some of you! I continue to wish you all the best in your own journey!
ReplyDeleteWhat a great, inspiring interview. I, too, wondered how you were able to use Nora Roberts' name until I saw that you got her permission. Sounds like you covered all the bases. You are an inspiration with how you delved in, learned social media, and made it happen. Thanks for the tips and happy writing.
ReplyDeleteYou sound so organized! I also have put together a small team, such as three editors, and I had someone making covers, but decided to do them myself. I have an art degree, he, he. I also heard that Facebook is an important place, but am still figuring out how best to use it. Congrats on writing fast! I wish!
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www.NancyLeeBadger.blogspot.com
Thanks, Ava, for an enlightening post. And thanks, everyone who fought through blogger to leave a comment. I appreciate your time and participation.
ReplyDeleteGreat interview! Thanks for sharing so much wonderful information!
ReplyDeleteGreat interview, ladies...wonderful insights into the world of self-pub. It is a new world for writers and I think, even when you publish through small houses, you have to manage your own promotions. Being the CEO is the key, as you say, Ava and it sounds like your strategies are perfect. Thank you for sharing them.
ReplyDeleteI would love to pick your brain over a cup of coffee, Ava!
ReplyDeleteAva, you are delightful and I've enjoyed reading your journey. Thanks for portraying the Indy world in its best light. Wishing you ongoing success... I'm going to check out your original story now.
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing, Ava and Becky. I think the title is brilliant and the book must be as well. :)
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